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Kupolyth
August 12th, 2010 @11:39 pm  

(continuation to my previous posts)
-art does not have to be creative in my opinion. As long as it’s thought, it is art. As long as it surprises, shocks, reassures (or any other reaction, or even none if the goal of the piece of art is to have no reaction), the idea is no longer only yours but also becomes universal. -Art is immortal and completes the creator. So can art be the traces/works of a man that will always remain in the world even if that person dies? I think art can be seen that way..

Kupolyth
August 13th, 2010 @1:16 pm  

(continuation to my previous post)
-but then if it’s someone who creates something (and that thing is the idea of someone else, which means that the guy making the thing creates “like a machine”) if that person creates without putting any reflexion in the work, then I wouldn’t call that art. But if that person creates (even if he creates 100 of the same things) and puts his mind/heart/reflexion/conscience in them, then I’d call these objects art (for these people)

Kupolyth
August 16th, 2010 @2:26 pm  

now I’m not saying it’s this, but in my opinion, art can be:
-the exteriorizing of an idea so that it reaches one of our five senses (so it suggests that it is something created)
-but then if something created is considered art, does it mean that a thousand same pens created by a machine is art? For me, no, cause it’s a machine that is doing the work to create…but for the one who had the idea to create a pen, the production of the pen is art.

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 17th, 2010 @8:12 pm  

@dbarii I dont disagree with your thoughts and this is how I see art: Art is the way we express a feeling or an idea through any medium, creativity helps to communicate that feeling or idea in a more interesting or pleasing manner, there for the more creativity the better the end result and it helps to practice so that u can master the tools u decide to use

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 20th, 2010 @11:46 am  

@dbarii So even though it was offensive to some, it was
nonetheless a piece of art cause stimulated peoples feelings and ideas, it had creativity and the artist also mastered his tools because I saw it and it was very well made. I believe that if 2 artist have the same amount of creativity but one is better at using his tools, then that artist will have a better chance at being more popular.

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 21st, 2010 @3:12 am  

@dbarii I don’t think they found out who did it but it certainly
stimulated feelings even in those that did not liked or agree with way the artist decided to express his idea and feelings.

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 21st, 2010 @9:05 pm  

@dbarii and a young lady on the floor with all her clothe ripped, suggesting
she was raped and therefor leading u to under stand man like that should be punished, it made news and it was removed

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 22nd, 2010 @6:09 am  

@dbarii There are some art pieces I don’t agree with, but yet I see how it could be art. I used to work at Santa Monica and there was an abandoned building were an artist decided to create a live size paper mache sculpture where a man was hanging
by its testicles

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 24th, 2010 @8:11 am  

@dbarii Now, just because we don’t like something it doesn’t mean is not art. I guess the creativeness of the artist will tell how much the piece would be liked and of course how well he uses his tools.

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
August 25th, 2010 @2:01 am  

@dbarii agree with u but not with lowerbunk as I feel that not anything could b art. The artist that made that artistic urinal had a point he was trying to get across unlike the urinals u find in most restaurants that are only trying to serve the purpose of retrieving ur urine and not trying to get a point across or stimulate any kind of feeling or idea. That line in the beginning is not art unless it communicated something through its title, cause a line does not express anything

dbarii
August 25th, 2010 @7:13 am  

now that i think about it actually, the video states that the definition of art is: the expression of creativity, imagination, or both. I agree with this definition, but only to a certain extent. with this said my personal definition of art is: what one determines and interprets as the expression of creativity, imagination, or both. in others words, art is one of those things that is different to everyone, there is never an exact definition to the word, much like what i said about life

dbarii
August 27th, 2010 @4:11 pm  

also if anyone disagrees with my comment below then please debate it with me, im hungry for knowledge and want to learn. so if u find illogical things in my comment then please tell me and explain. thank you all :)

dbarii
August 30th, 2010 @11:30 pm  

to me, this is like asking the question: what is the meaning of life? its an unanswerable question, much like: what is art? u cant say everything is art because that would be contradictory with the fact that if u called everything art then art itself wouldn’t exist. i could spit on the ground with no meaning or feeling and call it art and it would be true, because everything would be art, right? i think instead of questioning art, just create and be creative, dont question life, just live

MrMiguelSR1
August 31st, 2010 @12:55 pm  

@SLICKRICKDESIGNS ah another great mind in interpretation:) i support your notion, great minds think alike! :)

SLICKRICKDESIGNS
September 3rd, 2010 @1:52 am  

Art is the way we express a feeling or an idea through any medium, creativity helps to communicate that feeling or idea in a more interesting or pleasing manner, there for the more creativity the better the end result and it helps to practice so that u can master the tools u decide to use

eldiagrama
September 6th, 2010 @5:28 am  

One questión for you video maker: Is nature art?

You are using Aristotels final causation here to determine art. If you use this for everything, then it would take you to belive that the world, plants, rocks, stars, are made by someone: God. Therefor, even those thinks that man never imagined are still art. So: Do we need to draw the line? Yes, for the concept itselff to be understodd it would need another concept (lines drawn) to be diferentiated from.

what do i think0?

StoryboardSquad
September 8th, 2010 @10:17 pm  

It’s different for everyone, but people have a line drawn or art means nothing to them.
If everything is art, then nothing is art.
If everything is special, nothing is special.
Like if every other person on earth is your friend on facebook, what exactly is a facebook friend worth to you? Discrimination is part of the equation.
My idea of art and yours may be different, since if we both care about art we will likely disagree.

mcksdigger
September 12th, 2010 @2:58 am  

I am an artest and so are we. well put thank you.

TheOeaf
September 12th, 2010 @12:43 pm  

by the way, what i meant with “you can even make them better”, is that if you look at movies for example, they get more realistic and you can thanks to computergraphics, bla bla, do the most amazing things… to me this IS science and development… i could write on for weeks, but i’m tired now :)

TheOeaf
September 13th, 2010 @6:38 pm  

anyway if i knew it… in art there are also experiments… it’s not different, OR it is if you think that masturbating(bad word for this, i know!!) on a canvas is making art, of course, by chance you could make some art, but i wouldn’t bet… so whatevah, i don’t call this “let’s do something, cause i don’t know anything better to do, and i don’t know what i’m doing” – act art… greetz!

TheOeaf
September 15th, 2010 @2:06 am  

its very very well recreatable… at the time of van gogh, da vinci, raphael, etc. there were many artist who at this time did the same, and maybe sold better or even were better artists, but after all this time this first called just sold better and were remembered… back to medicin, if you recreate penicilin nowadays, you are lame and boring, it’s the same with art, if you paint expressionistic, you are boring, developing is the key, and for THAT, i don’t know any formula, would be boring

TheOeaf
September 17th, 2010 @9:29 pm  

WELL, you actually can recreate artworks, even make them better(???)… there are often cases where somebody duplicates a painting and they find it out 200 hundret years later or in many cases i guess never… SO, tha recreation with art works very very well, for example see musicbussiness where somebody makes a sound and thousands copy it (it’s btw. in every art the same), and touch peoples emotions through duplicating certain formulas… of course, we appreciate the ones who sell best, but

lowerbunk
September 19th, 2010 @10:16 pm  

Medicine is based in science where people design experiments so they can be recreated over and over and, if all goes as expected, get the same results. Art is completely different. No matter how hard someone tries to re-create a piece of art, it is impossible because art involves something that even science hasn’t figured out completely, and that’s human emotion.

lowerbunk
September 23rd, 2010 @8:30 am  

I feel as though art is relative. Each person has their own idea of what it is and how it is created. The problem with comparing art and those who create it to medicine and those who practice it is that art is nothing like medicine.

lukezammit1
September 24th, 2010 @3:16 pm  

brilliant man! have and exam on this tomz.. really help :)

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